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 #16  
11.07.2005, 22:04
Qris
<feicoremvethis> wrote in message
news:d624

> There used to be more 0800 numbers. However, many people call them
> without any particular need, and therefore most service providers
> decided to replace them by 09 (usually 0900) numbers.


There are a lot of companies though that use 0900 numbers to provide a
low-cost single point of contact (like ABNAMRO). They charge local or
national fees for calling to that number. It prevents from
"plaagtelefoontjes" (what's the English word) by those 12 year olds with
prepaid phones.

ByeBye
Qris
 #17  
11.07.2005, 22:51
Johan Wevers
Qris <sirqris> wrote:

>There are a lot of companies though that use 0900 numbers to provide a
>low-cost single point of contact (like ABNAMRO). They charge local or
>national fees for calling to that number.


Unfortunately, it charges only local if you're calling from a fixed line.
Fortunately ABN-AMRO also has a normal number (010-2411720), which meant
for people calling from another country but can also be used in The
Netherlands with a mobile.
 #18  
11.07.2005, 23:50
Ben
Op Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:04:08 +0200 schreef "Qris" <sirqris>
in nl.telecom:

| "plaagtelefoontjes" (what's the English word)

Prank phonecalls?
 #19  
11.07.2005, 23:52
Michielvd
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:04:08 +0200, "Qris" <sirqris> wrote:

><feicoremvethis> wrote in message
>news:d624
>There are a lot of companies though that use 0900 numbers to provide a
>low-cost single point of contact (like ABNAMRO). They charge local or
>national fees for calling to that number. It prevents from
>"plaagtelefoontjes" (what's the English word) by those 12 year olds with
>prepaid phones.


Let's just call it prank calls. It happens quite often, not only by
12-year-olds; even some adults like calling toll free numbers just for
the fun of it.
 #20  
12.07.2005, 05:22
Joseph
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:37:51 +0200, "Dimitri Visser"
<dimitrivisser> wrote:

>Ofcourse you're never calling for free. In the end you are paying for it
>yourself. Having a toll-free number is expensive for the company, they are
>paying more for each minute than you would pay calling "national".


Perhaps this is so in the Netherlands. In the US it's very common to
get rates for toll free reception of calls of 2 or 3 cents per minute.
If it costs considerably more than that in the Netherlands it's only
because the companies wish to make more profit off its subscribers.
I would be very red in the face if I had to wait for a half hour while
calling an 0900 number with a majority of that time spent going to pay
for service I didn't even receive!
- -
 #21  
12.07.2005, 05:24
Joseph
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:40:16 +0200, feicoremvethis wrote:

>I think Americans do not call 0800 unless they really need it.


Nonsense! Americans are used to calling 800 numbers and do it without
a thought. We don't do it on a whim, but we would be outraged to call
to reserve a flight from KLM and pay to be put on hold and wait!

- -
 #22  
12.07.2005, 09:07
AnToNio
Joseph <JoeOfSeattle> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:40:16 +0200, feicoremvethis wrote:
> >I think Americans do not call 0800 unless they really need it.

> Nonsense! Americans are used to calling 800 numbers and do it without
> a thought. We don't do it on a whim, but we would be outraged to call
> to reserve a flight from KLM and pay to be put on hold and wait!


Well, here (in this socalled Liberal country) you have to pay for
calling a helpdesk because your product is faulty within the guarantee
period.

You even have to pay to call the police!
 #23  
12.07.2005, 10:58
cato
On 7/12/05 9:07 AM, in article 1gzkx9u.139rtav1apclamN%email,
"AnToNio" <email> wrote:

> Well, here ... you have to pay for
> calling a helpdesk because your product is faulty within the guarantee
> period.


antonio zegt (1): your product is faulty within the guarantee period
[hetgeen al onzin is]
en (2) daarom moet je betalen als je de helpdesk belt.

Merkwaardig wat voor causale verbanden worden gelegd door vertegenwoordigers
van de maatschappelijke onderklasse.
 #24  
12.07.2005, 11:58
AnToNio
cato <cato> wrote:

> On 7/12/05 9:07 AM, in article 1gzkx9u.139rtav1apclamN%email,
> "AnToNio" <email> wrote:
> antonio zegt (1): your product is faulty within the guarantee period
> [hetgeen al onzin is]
> en (2) daarom moet je betalen als je de helpdesk belt.


Wellicht nog niet tot jouw hoofdje doorgedrongen maar de meeste
helpdesks hebben een 0900 nummer met vaak pittige prijzen.

Je Engels is overigens duidelijk ook al niet al te best.

> Merkwaardig wat voor causale verbanden worden gelegd door vertegenwoordigers
> van de maatschappelijke onderklasse.


Merkwaardig wat voor causale verbanden gelegd worden door
vertegenwoordigers van de Teleac geleerden.

Ga liever spelen met Gekke Henkie i.p.v. mensen lastig te vallen.
 #25  
12.07.2005, 14:18
Iedereen
Johan Wevers heeft uiteengezet op 11/07/2005 :
> ?¿? <gorbu@@@@> wrote:
>> Bij ons krijg je zelfs geld toe.

> (He claims they give you money to call)
> The scammer doesn't even speak English?


Ach gut!!!!
 #26  
12.07.2005, 14:18
Iedereen
Johan Wevers heeft uiteengezet op 11/07/2005 :
> ?¿? <gorbu@@@@> wrote:
>> Bij ons krijg je zelfs geld toe.

> (He claims they give you money to call)
> The scammer doesn't even speak English?


Erg he?
 #27  
12.07.2005, 14:19
Iedereen
Johan Wevers stelde dit idée voor :
> Qris <sirqris> wrote:
> Unfortunately, it charges only local if you're calling from a fixed line.
> Fortunately ABN-AMRO also has a normal number (010-2411720), which meant
> for people calling from another country but can also be used in The
> Netherlands with a mobile.


dit NL.telecom je weet wel NL is Nederlands
 #28  
12.07.2005, 14:36
Jassy
Iedereen gebruikte zijn klavier om te schrijven :
> dit NL.telecom je weet wel NL is Nederlands


dr staat alleen nergens dat je hier per-se nederlands moet praten?
 #29  
12.07.2005, 14:58
Jeroen Heijmans
Joseph <JoeOfSeattle> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:37:51 +0200, "Dimitri Visser"
> <dimitrivisser> wrote:
> Perhaps this is so in the Netherlands. In the US it's very common to
> get rates for toll free reception of calls of 2 or 3 cents per minute.
> If it costs considerably more than that in the Netherlands it's only
> because the companies wish to make more profit off its subscribers.
> I would be very red in the face if I had to wait for a half hour while
> calling an 0900 number with a majority of that time spent going to pay
> for service I didn't even receive!


The company provides the customer with a toll-free number.
The company pays a fee to the telecomoperator.
The company calculates a number of calls to be added to the price of the
product.

You don't pay for the calls directly, but you'll pay for it. Even if you
won't use it.

What would be nicer?
Product A:
Price $100
Helpdesk Toll-free: never used

Product B:
Price $80
Helpdesk $1/minute: never used

....
 #30  
12.07.2005, 15:02
Johan Wevers
Iedereen <gorbu@@@@@@@@@> wrote:

>dit NL.telecom je weet wel NL is Nederlands


Jij niet spreken Engels? Dat jammer zijn. Jij zowiezo MLM oplichter zijn,
dus kop houden.

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